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Potential manufacturers are bidding for Murray city car contract, with a decision due by June

Gordon Murray Design is close to finalising a deal that will allow his revolutionary T25 and T27 city cars to enter production.

The legendary designer told Autocar that advanced talks had taken place with three potential suitors over a licence to build the cars, and he hoped a deal could be sealed by June.

The three interested parties are competing for a licence to produce the T25 and T27 using Murray’s iStream manufacturing process. Its efficiency, investment and space savings will allow cars to be made for much less than existing or proposed city cars. Both would be built on the same production line.

One of the groups is a start-up UK-based consortium, another is an existing European manufacturer and the third is an overseas-based start-up consortium. Once an iStream licence is granted to one of the companies to build the petrol-powered T25 and its all-electric T27 sibling, no other licences would be granted.

Murray confirmed he is working on six other projects that could be built using the iStream process, ranging from two seats to 13. “These are all different types of vehicles with different bodystyles and powertrains,” he said.

“The T25 was built by us to showcase the iStream technology, whereas the other six projects have all been people approaching us for an iStream licence to build a certain type of vehicle.

“The T25 and T27 have been byproducts of demonstrating the manufacturing process, so it’s great that there is so much interest in them. We know we really need to get these manufactured now, though.”

Late last month Murray entered into a technical partnership with Japanese carbonfibre specialist Toray Industries, the firm that commissioned him to develop the Teewave AR.1 two-seat electric sports car for last year’s Tokyo motor show.

Mark Tisshaw

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voyager 1 September 2012

A far better way of housing three

I doubt if Murray's pocket car will pass vehicle safety regulations in the U.S. There are other ways for 'squeezing in' three passengers into a car.  By making a car sleek rather than short, you end up with a far safer platform, as demonstrated underneath. Bonusses are: an offset passenger layout with ample space for all three and enough impact margin on all sides, great comfort because of the long wheelbase and a superior low drag outer shape. Don't forget that a hatched back creates a low pressure area trailing the rear that will literally cause drag. More info: newisetta.com

 

 

 

Casanova 14 March 2012

Re: Murray close to finalising T25 deal

Los Angeles wrote:
Unless you buy a classic BMW Bubble car or Messerschmitt - closer to the T25 than anything else - post war frugal classics that cost fortunes these days

The stratospheric values of cars such as this is surely testament to the existence of a latent group of followers for cars that are as compact and minimalist as possible. I certainly count myself amongst them - I'd love a Messerschmitt, Isetta or a Trojan (or even a Peel!) but they are silly money and out of my reach for now!

Great news about the T25 (that I missed when it was current) - hope to hear of more progress soon.

metanoid android 14 March 2012

Re: Murray close to finalising T25 deal

Los Angeles wrote:
the only micro car I can think of is ... the Smart
I wouldn't claim to be knowledgeable but as far as commercially successful micro cars go I agree with you, the Smart is the only one that immediately comes to mind. There are many that are in development. I believe MIT are working on one called the "city car". Riversimple are working on a two seater powered by hydrogen fuel cells. Renault's Twizzy is a full 2 seat (in tandem) electric car and is now on sale in the UK though I've yet to see one up in Scotland, no surprise given our inclement weather; it has no doors. They are a cost option but they don't seem to have side windows! Mainstream manufacturers' have developed concepts; I seem to recall one that copies GMD's seating arrangement. I suspect BMW will make an i1 at some point but expect that's still 5 years away. The 3rd generation (F56) Mini will be on sale sometime next year. It is disappointing that BMW have, to date, not made a true mini. In fact, earlier this year they cancelled their micro mini altogether, apparently because they couldn't justify the necessary development costs. Someone recently commented on the i3 and made comparison between it and the T27 suggesting the i3 was overpriced and overweight. However, I don't see them as rivals. The T25/7 are basic 3 seat micro cars. The i3 is a luxurious 4 seat electric city car, whose acceleration is better than many conventional cars and will also be available as a range extended. No, I actually see the i3 as BMW's A2; you wouldn't compare that with a T25/7. Audi weren't going to replace the A2 but have, I believe, responded to the i3 and are working hard on an A2 replacement which we should see by 2015.