Rolls-Royce Ghost v Phantom

Rover P6 3500S wrote:

OK, so I get that the BMW engine wasn't nicked, I was putting it extremely simply. But, as that straight-six was a BMW engine (and, therefore, German), why couldn't they use another BMW engine? Anyway, even if that wasn't possible, they could use the Jag V8 instead. Didn't the Carlton look exactly like a Senator, only with a different nose? And by 1980 I was just guessing approximately. I wasn't trying to say exactly when it entered production, just illustrating the era from which its 'style' is derived.

Dan McNeil v2 wrote:

It's made better in ways that matter

But looks DO matter. And, no matter what you say, most people will be put off by Mk2 Astra doorhandles and Senator rear lights. I'm sure that Bristol could produce an extremely fine car if they put their minds to it, but this isn't it. Not quite. It's almost very good, but its extremely dated looks (and, from the one I've been in, incredibly shoddy build quality) spoil it totally.

For an Autocar poster, you're an absolute winner in the drivel department. Your above post is a classic of the genre, stuffed as it is with a mixture of ignorance, fiction and inaccuracy.

To expound on this, your superficially knowledgeable posts fall apart under closer inspection: a classic was your reference to David Bache in the Citroen DS thread, in which you referred to the Chief Stylist of the SD1 and Metro (amongst others) as an engineer (he was a designer – surely you, as an apparent Rover expert, should have known that). Calling Bache an engineer is like claiming that Giugiaro was an ice-cream salesman – it demonstrates an astonishing lack of knowledge, wrapped in your increasingly transparent disguise of gravitas.

And, when someone pulls you up on your howlers, your response is always a variation on an increasingly familiar theme: you were being “rhetorical”; you were “just guessing”; you were “putting it extremely simply”; you “weren’t actually saying that”. What you never say is: “yeah, you’re right – you called me straight on that one.”

Such lack of insight and self-awareness demonstrates that you’ve yet to drive a car of any significance. Certainly, none of your posts suggest you have any experience of anything more interesting to relate than your fascinating account of not being terribly uncomfortable when you were spread-eagled over the transmission tunnel of your parent’s terminally dull 2001 BMW 5 series estate on a moderately long motorway journey.

And, to compound your mock-gravitas, you always have that old standby, the “friend” who owns or has driven a car you’ve no experience of, thus enabling you to inject some bogus authority into a discussion.

Instead, you initiate threads that require people to post their counter-experiences (e.g. your Bargain of the Century thread), and, when they post their guileless and honest response, you attempt to trash them and their experiences (in a clumsy, asinine, Clarkson-aping and teenager-pretending-to-be-worldly manner).

I’d put you at 22, and living with the parents. Nothing wrong with that, but get over it.