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Chinese car maker denies its design is inspired by the Mini

This is the Lifan 320, which its makers deny has borrowed anything from the styling of the Mini.

The Lifan has been on sale in China for more than a year, and is designed and built at Lifan's base at Chong Quing.

See the Lifan 320 in detail

It is 3745mm in length, 1620mm wide and 1430mm high; in contrast the Mini Cooper is 3635mm long, 1688mm wide and 1408mm in height.

Asked about the car's similarity to the Mini, a spokesman said: "Yes, we know of the similarities, but this is an independent design of our own work. I think that perhaps the management of Lifan and Mini shares some ideals that have drawn them to this very classical and fashionable shape."

It is powered by a 1.3-litre four-cylinder petrol engine linked to a five-speed gearbox, but a 1.0-litre three cylinder unit will be available later this year, increasing the car's city appeal.

It has MacPherson strut suspension front and rear, and standard kit includes anti-lock brakes and two airbags.

Jim Holder

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B reg 26 April 2010

Re: No, it's not a Mini

Totally agree, it's nothing like a Mini. But then, the BINI looks nothing like a Mini either.

By the way, I seem to remember reading that Datsun took a Mini Cooper apart when they were designing the Cherry 100A.

Overdrive 25 April 2010

Re: No, it's not a Mini

Dan McNeil v2 wrote:

Overdrive wrote:

Agreed. Rarely have I heard such a load of cobblers!

You can add, to the considerable time and effort, the huge investment, mostly provided by ordinary shareholders, that go into designing, developing and manufacturing cars.

All this money and effort isn't invested just so that the Far East copycats simply plagiarise the designs and in time drive the very Western companies that produced the original designs, out of the market with the loss of thousands of jobs, because of their far cheaper labour rates and unfair, not to mention illegal, trade practices.

That is NOT the idea of a free market.

What utter rot.

You live in a capitalistic world, and you live in a capitalistic world because you (presumably) vote for and support the capitalistic policies and philosophies of the main parties.

A capitalistic world is a cold, soulless, dog-eat-dog world. The beneficiaries of a capitalistic world never complain - until the things they do to others are visited upon them.

Thank you for the "harsh reality of the world economy" lecture, no really!

Yes Dan McNeil version 2, it did occur to me that I might be living in a capitalist (for the most part anyway) world, and I'm also well aware of the Japanese and later Koreans copying Western designs in the past and reverse-engineering them too (though nothing wrong with reverse engineering - a very good way to learn). But even under a capitalist system there are some rules, such as intellectual property rights etc.

So, if we agree that it's dog eat dog world, then if a company has any sense and wants to survive, it'd better be ready to chew the ass of the other dogs that are hell-bent on nicking its designs. Heck, even the Japanese and the Koreans of the olden days weren't as blatant as the current shameless Chinese lot in copying designs to the last screw, bar the badge on the bonnet. Sad thing is though, since the Western manufacturers are so desperate to keep hold of their piece of the pie that is the Chinese market, beyond the odd feeble moan they are unlikely to raise a finger in case they cheese off the nouvo riche capital loving Commies and be barred from their huge market. My guess is, this is an approach the Western manufacturers, blinded by the dollar signs and short-term gains, will come to rue in the long-run.

CambsBill 25 April 2010

Re: No, it's not a Mini

beachland2 wrote:
surely a party is some kind of organisation.

I bet even the anarchists have a website and a party. . . .